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Today’s guest is Steve Murphy and Javier Peña.
DEA special agents Javier Peña and Steve Murphy were assigned as the lead investigators targeting Escobar and his Medellin Cartel organization. These true American heroes provide a first-hand lesson in history as they discuss their efforts bringing down the world’s first narco-terrorist, the challenges they faced in oftentimes hostile and life-threatening environments, and the innovative strategies they employed to successfully end the reign of terror of the world’s most wanted criminal.
In this first outing, we look at how the Netflix series ‘Narcos’ matched the real investigation. We discuss their story, training, how they found Colombia, the role of the local population, their thoughts on Escobar and so much more.
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WHAT IS DISCUSSED
In this interview, we discuss gems like:
- Who they are
- Their inspiration to become law enforcement agents
- How was the DEA training setup when they joined the Agency
- How did Pablo Escobar come to prominence and ‘fame’
- How true to life was Narcos
- How did they find the transition from the American way of life to moving to Colombia
- How was interacting with the Colombian National Police
- What was a typical day like in the DEA in Colombia
- The tactics that were used to track Escobar and his associates
- How do you overcome the ‘Robin Hood’ characterization that Escobar had with the poor communities he bought the loyalty of
- How did they overcome feeling fear during such a dangerous times
- How do you build connections with the local people
- What happened on the rooftop compared to what is shown
- How did they react after Escobar was killed
- What was next for the pair after Escobar was killed
- How can the lure of drugs be reduced and fixed?
- What one thing do they wish they could have said to Escobar
- How to build such strong friendships like Javier and Steve have
- Was Javier as much as a ladies man as the show portrays him as?!
- Why you should buy a copy of their book ‘Manhunters’
- How you can connect with them
KEY POINTS TO REFLECT ON & LINKS MENTIONED
In this interview, a lot of jewels of self-improvement are discussed. Some of these include:
- The focus the DEA has on their students being the best, the bar of quality that students need to maintain above, and the demands of consistent training are something you should encourage in your own life. Be consistently ready for action and not needing time to get ready, as life doesn’t wait.
- Fear will always be there, you will always feel it. However, it is just a feeling, you choose how you respond to it. Learn how to feel it and move, feel it and keep your head. It’ll always be there but as you learn to act on the event during the feeling, it will eventually become a noise you can switch on and off when the mission is more important than the feeling.
- Ensure you have standards in your training, bench marks you need to meet or be above as you fall to the highest level of your training, you do not rise to the event. Be ensuring your are ready and training the necessary skill set, fitness and intelligence means that when an incident happens, you fall to your training limit and if you work hard, your limit will make your performance more than enough.
- People who make an effort to work with people of another culture will find they get along, those who go in with an attitude will cause conflict with new people or other cultures. Go into all interactions with an open approach, aim to fit in, to learn about others and be part of the culture and you will learn and grow as a person far more than being a confrontational asshole.
- Steve’s story of what inspired him to enter law enforcement, is a great example of how one interaction can shape someone’s life, and motivate them on their path. Please consider how you interact with your family, nephews, students etc, look at how you speak, inspire, and motivate others. Be the person that they look up to, follow in their footsteps or become better people from your example to them.
- Try and find a job that you love and it will feel never feel like work.
- Not everything you see on TV is true, you need to learn to use critical thinking skills to ascertain what is true and whats not.
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WHAT SHOULD YOU DO AFTER LISTENING
These are some key actions that you should undertake after listening to this interview:
- Buy a copy of their new books – ‘Manhunters – How We Took Down Pablo Escobar‘
- Follow the guys on LinkedIn where they provide regular updates.
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What you’ll find there
For the first time, legendary DEA operatives Steve Murphy and Javier F. Peña tell the true story of how they helped put an end to one of the world’s most infamous narco-terrorists in Manhunters: How We Took Down Pablo Escobar–the subject of the hit Netflix series, Narcos.
Colombian drug lord Pablo Escobar’s brutal Medellín Cartel was responsible for trafficking tons of cocaine to North America and Europe in the 1980s and ’90s. The nation became a warzone as his sicarios mercilessly murdered thousands of people–competitors, police, and civilians–to ensure he remained Colombia’s reigning kingpin.
Manhunters presents Steve and Javier’s history in law enforcement from their rigorous physical training and their early DEA assignments in Miami and Austin to the Escobar mission in Medellin, Colombia–living far from home and serving as frontline soldiers in the never ending war on drugs that continues to devastate America.
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